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Завідуйтє, біндєри!
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Біндєри, чьто с ліцамі???
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From militant to puppet: how Jean-Claude Van Damme and Onishchenko ended up in the Kremlin's zoo of decommissioned celebrities
When historians write an epilogue to the agony of Putin's empire, there will definitely be room for a paragraph like this: Jean-Claude Van Damme, the former idol of the VHS era, sends the dictator a "big kiss" below the belt and asks to be an "ambassador of peace".
Yes, this is the same Van Damme who used to do the twine between two trucks and fight for the good of the enemy in cheap action films that became symbols of the era anyway
Nowadays, these films are only for those who are nostalgic for a life when a single punch from a U-turn solved the problem and punished the bad guys on the TV screen
Today, he is 64, his career has long been knocked out, his reputation is on the verge of collapse, but a video has appeared of him saying: "We want to come to Russia, yes, to be an ambassador for peace."
There are no more roles, but you can still make good money by becoming an extra for the Kremlin, which still pays retired (in most cases, fucked-up) former stars well. And playing a karate fighter in a film in retirement is not a good idea, because you can have a heart attack. It's another matter to work for Moscow with your mouth, you can only dislocate your jaw
The paradox is that in Romania, Van Damme is involved in a sexual exploitation case, and his agent, in the best traditions of a PR professional who wants to put out the flames of the fire, calls it all slander "both grotesque and non-existent". However, the real grotesqueness in this story is not in the accusations, but in the fact that Van Damme chose Putin and actually turned into a sex slave himself, who is over 60
I won't write much about Oleksandr Onyshchenko - he is a former Ukrainian MP who is wanted in Ukraine for a gas scam worth more than 1.5 billion hryvnias. Personally, I remember him because in 2021, he officially confirmed that he had received Russian citizenship, justifying it with his desire to play for the Russian national equestrian team. And this is not a joke, but an official comment from the former MP (he just loves lashadak, right)
Both Van Damme and Onishchenko are not just individual stories. They have added to the collection of Putin, who loves to collect everything that is toxic and fucking useless (remember, Putin brought a washing machine to Russia from Dresden). All the characters of cinema, theatre, singers or just local fucking, worked out and forgotten pensioners or those for whom Google doesn't call you an old fart yet because you know their names - all of them, like a car from Germany that Putin fucked up (imagine the fucking Germans when they saw it) are in a Russian jar and buzzing to be fed before everyone else
The farce is that Moscow, which is constantly shouting about being a "superpower", cannot pass by any old foreign car that can only move if it is pushed down from a height. Instead of passing by the dump in Dresden, the Russians believe that they can still sell these buckets of bolts to the public as evidence of "international support".
And in this panopticon, the cemetery of reputations, there is room for everyone: Steven Seagal, who lives in Moscow; Kanye West, who called himself "the young Putin"; Totti, who disgraced Italian football in a way that "mojigate" did not. Now Van Damme has joined the list, having been thrown from two lorries onto a bottle of Russian vodka.
More precisely, he was not even thrown off - he voluntarily went for it (soon his sores will start to show, he needs something for his retirement)
The video with the two puppets is stupidly grotesque. One of them kisses the dictator in exchange for a moment of fame, and the other, as I understand it, imagines himself riding a horse under the flag of a state that is bombing Ukraine.
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When historians write an epilogue to the agony of Putin's empire, there will definitely be room for a paragraph like this: Jean-Claude Van Damme, the former idol of the VHS era, sends the dictator a "big kiss" below the belt and asks to be an "ambassador of peace".
Yes, this is the same Van Damme who used to do the twine between two trucks and fight for the good of the enemy in cheap action films that became symbols of the era anyway
Nowadays, these films are only for those who are nostalgic for a life when a single punch from a U-turn solved the problem and punished the bad guys on the TV screen
Today, he is 64, his career has long been knocked out, his reputation is on the verge of collapse, but a video has appeared of him saying: "We want to come to Russia, yes, to be an ambassador for peace."
There are no more roles, but you can still make good money by becoming an extra for the Kremlin, which still pays retired (in most cases, fucked-up) former stars well. And playing a karate fighter in a film in retirement is not a good idea, because you can have a heart attack. It's another matter to work for Moscow with your mouth, you can only dislocate your jaw
The paradox is that in Romania, Van Damme is involved in a sexual exploitation case, and his agent, in the best traditions of a PR professional who wants to put out the flames of the fire, calls it all slander "both grotesque and non-existent". However, the real grotesqueness in this story is not in the accusations, but in the fact that Van Damme chose Putin and actually turned into a sex slave himself, who is over 60
I won't write much about Oleksandr Onyshchenko - he is a former Ukrainian MP who is wanted in Ukraine for a gas scam worth more than 1.5 billion hryvnias. Personally, I remember him because in 2021, he officially confirmed that he had received Russian citizenship, justifying it with his desire to play for the Russian national equestrian team. And this is not a joke, but an official comment from the former MP (he just loves lashadak, right)
Both Van Damme and Onishchenko are not just individual stories. They have added to the collection of Putin, who loves to collect everything that is toxic and fucking useless (remember, Putin brought a washing machine to Russia from Dresden). All the characters of cinema, theatre, singers or just local fucking, worked out and forgotten pensioners or those for whom Google doesn't call you an old fart yet because you know their names - all of them, like a car from Germany that Putin fucked up (imagine the fucking Germans when they saw it) are in a Russian jar and buzzing to be fed before everyone else
The farce is that Moscow, which is constantly shouting about being a "superpower", cannot pass by any old foreign car that can only move if it is pushed down from a height. Instead of passing by the dump in Dresden, the Russians believe that they can still sell these buckets of bolts to the public as evidence of "international support".
And in this panopticon, the cemetery of reputations, there is room for everyone: Steven Seagal, who lives in Moscow; Kanye West, who called himself "the young Putin"; Totti, who disgraced Italian football in a way that "mojigate" did not. Now Van Damme has joined the list, having been thrown from two lorries onto a bottle of Russian vodka.
More precisely, he was not even thrown off - he voluntarily went for it (soon his sores will start to show, he needs something for his retirement)
The video with the two puppets is stupidly grotesque. One of them kisses the dictator in exchange for a moment of fame, and the other, as I understand it, imagines himself riding a horse under the flag of a state that is bombing Ukraine.
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Van Damme says he only wants to talk about "sport, peace and happiness". But peace is not a word that Putin writes on missiles. And happiness is definitely not what awaits in the occupied territories.
There will be no morality. A former militant star kissing a war criminal and making videos for him, a corrupt MP walking a Russian passport in a stable... this world cannot be saved. Assad and Yanukovych, looking at the fact that they have a new neighbour, no longer clink glasses - they are cocking openly from the throat, and do not twist, because they sniff over their shoulders
And the last thing. The phrase from the legendary Volvo Trucks commercial, in which Jean-Claude Van Damme made a twine between two trucks on the move, goes like this:
"I've had my share of ups and downs in my life, I've had my share of potholes and strong winds.
But that's what made me who I am.
And here I am standing in front of you.
What you see is a body brought to perfection...
A pair of legs designed to defy the laws of physics...
And a mind determined to make the most epic splits."
We have to admit that he's good with the splits. Even the drag katsapka is in awe of the stretch
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There will be no morality. A former militant star kissing a war criminal and making videos for him, a corrupt MP walking a Russian passport in a stable... this world cannot be saved. Assad and Yanukovych, looking at the fact that they have a new neighbour, no longer clink glasses - they are cocking openly from the throat, and do not twist, because they sniff over their shoulders
And the last thing. The phrase from the legendary Volvo Trucks commercial, in which Jean-Claude Van Damme made a twine between two trucks on the move, goes like this:
"I've had my share of ups and downs in my life, I've had my share of potholes and strong winds.
But that's what made me who I am.
And here I am standing in front of you.
What you see is a body brought to perfection...
A pair of legs designed to defy the laws of physics...
And a mind determined to make the most epic splits."
We have to admit that he's good with the splits. Even the drag katsapka is in awe of the stretch
The end
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Від бойовика до маріонетки: як Жан-Клод Ван Дамм і Онищенко опинилися в кремлівському зоопарку списаних знаменитостей
Коли історики писатимуть епілог до агонії путінської імперії, там обов’язково знайдеться місце для такого абзацу: Жан-Клод Ван Дамм, колишній ідол VHS-епохи, надсилає диктатору «великий поцілунок» нижче поясу і проситься в «посли миру».
Так, це той самий Ван Дамм, що колись робив шпагат між двома фурами і боровся заради добра з ворогами в дешевих бойовиках, які стали все одно символами епохи
Тепер ці фільми хіба що для тих, хто ностальгує за життям, коли один удар з розвороту вирішував проблему та карав поганців на екрані тв
Сьогодні — йому 64, карʼєра давно в нокауті, репутація — на межі, зате зʼявилося відео, де він говорить: “Ми хочемо приїхати до росії, так, бути послом миру”.
Ролей більше немає, але ще можна непогано заробити, ставши масовкою в кремля, який досі непогано платить колишнім зіркам на пенсії (в більшості випадків їбанутим). Та і на пенсії грати в кіно каратиста - так собі ідея, бо можна і серцевий напад піймати. Інша ж справа - працювати ротом на москву, тут хіба шо щелепу вивихнути можна
Парадокс в тому шо в Румунії Ван Дамм фігурує в справі про сексуальну експлуатацію, а його агент, в кращих традиціях піарника, що хоче загасити полумʼя пожежі це все наклепами “одночасно гротескними і неіснуючими”. Проте справжній гротеск в цій історії — не в звинуваченнях, а в тому, що Ван Дамм обрав путіна і фактично сам перетворився на секс рабиню, якій за 60
За Олександра Онищенка багато писати не буду - це колишній український депутат, якого в Україні розшукують за газову аферу на понад 1,5 мільярда гривень. Особисто для мене він запамʼятався тим, що в 2021 році офіційно підтвердив, що отримав російське громадянство, виправдовуючи це бажанням виступати за збірну росії у кінному спорті. І це не жарт якшо шо, а офіційний коментар колишнього депутата (он просто любіт лашадак, ага)
І Ван Дамм, і Онищенко не просто окремі історії. Вони поповнили колекцію путіна, який обожнює збирати навкруги все, що токсичне і нахуй нікому непотрібне (нагадую, з Дрездена путін привіз на росію пральну машину). Всі персонажі кіно, театру, співаки чи просто місцеві їбануті, відпрацьовані і забуті пенсіонери або ті, за кого Гугл ще не не називає тебе старими пердуном, бо ти знаєш як їх звуть - всі вони, як машинка з Німеччини, яку спиздив путін (уявіть ахуй німців, коли вони це побачили) знаходяться в російській банці і дзижчать шоб їх погодували раніше за всіх
Фарс в тому шо москва, яка постійно кричить про те шо вона «наддержава», не може пройти повз жодну стару іномарку, яка може їхати тільки тоді, коли її штовхнути з висоти вниз. Замість того шоб пройти повз смітник в Дрездені, росіяни вважають шо можна і досі продати ці відра з болтами публіці як свідчення “міжнародної підтримки”.
І в цьому паноптикумі, на кладовищі репутацій, є місце для всіх: Стівен Сігал, що живе в москві; Каньє Вест, який назвав себе “молодим путіним”, Тотті, який зганьбив італійський футбол так, як його не зганьбив «моджигейт». Тепер сюди приєднався Ван Дамм, якого скинули з двох вантажівок на пляшку від російської водки.
Точніше навіть не скинули - він добровільно на це пішов (скоро болячки почнуть про себе давати знати, треба шось на пенсію шоб було)
Відео з двома маріонетками - це тупо гротеск. Один — цілує диктатора в обмін на хвилину слави, інший —, як я розумію, уявляє себе вершником на коні під прапором держави, що бомбить Україну.
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Коли історики писатимуть епілог до агонії путінської імперії, там обов’язково знайдеться місце для такого абзацу: Жан-Клод Ван Дамм, колишній ідол VHS-епохи, надсилає диктатору «великий поцілунок» нижче поясу і проситься в «посли миру».
Так, це той самий Ван Дамм, що колись робив шпагат між двома фурами і боровся заради добра з ворогами в дешевих бойовиках, які стали все одно символами епохи
Тепер ці фільми хіба що для тих, хто ностальгує за життям, коли один удар з розвороту вирішував проблему та карав поганців на екрані тв
Сьогодні — йому 64, карʼєра давно в нокауті, репутація — на межі, зате зʼявилося відео, де він говорить: “Ми хочемо приїхати до росії, так, бути послом миру”.
Ролей більше немає, але ще можна непогано заробити, ставши масовкою в кремля, який досі непогано платить колишнім зіркам на пенсії (в більшості випадків їбанутим). Та і на пенсії грати в кіно каратиста - так собі ідея, бо можна і серцевий напад піймати. Інша ж справа - працювати ротом на москву, тут хіба шо щелепу вивихнути можна
Парадокс в тому шо в Румунії Ван Дамм фігурує в справі про сексуальну експлуатацію, а його агент, в кращих традиціях піарника, що хоче загасити полумʼя пожежі це все наклепами “одночасно гротескними і неіснуючими”. Проте справжній гротеск в цій історії — не в звинуваченнях, а в тому, що Ван Дамм обрав путіна і фактично сам перетворився на секс рабиню, якій за 60
За Олександра Онищенка багато писати не буду - це колишній український депутат, якого в Україні розшукують за газову аферу на понад 1,5 мільярда гривень. Особисто для мене він запамʼятався тим, що в 2021 році офіційно підтвердив, що отримав російське громадянство, виправдовуючи це бажанням виступати за збірну росії у кінному спорті. І це не жарт якшо шо, а офіційний коментар колишнього депутата (он просто любіт лашадак, ага)
І Ван Дамм, і Онищенко не просто окремі історії. Вони поповнили колекцію путіна, який обожнює збирати навкруги все, що токсичне і нахуй нікому непотрібне (нагадую, з Дрездена путін привіз на росію пральну машину). Всі персонажі кіно, театру, співаки чи просто місцеві їбануті, відпрацьовані і забуті пенсіонери або ті, за кого Гугл ще не не називає тебе старими пердуном, бо ти знаєш як їх звуть - всі вони, як машинка з Німеччини, яку спиздив путін (уявіть ахуй німців, коли вони це побачили) знаходяться в російській банці і дзижчать шоб їх погодували раніше за всіх
Фарс в тому шо москва, яка постійно кричить про те шо вона «наддержава», не може пройти повз жодну стару іномарку, яка може їхати тільки тоді, коли її штовхнути з висоти вниз. Замість того шоб пройти повз смітник в Дрездені, росіяни вважають шо можна і досі продати ці відра з болтами публіці як свідчення “міжнародної підтримки”.
І в цьому паноптикумі, на кладовищі репутацій, є місце для всіх: Стівен Сігал, що живе в москві; Каньє Вест, який назвав себе “молодим путіним”, Тотті, який зганьбив італійський футбол так, як його не зганьбив «моджигейт». Тепер сюди приєднався Ван Дамм, якого скинули з двох вантажівок на пляшку від російської водки.
Точніше навіть не скинули - він добровільно на це пішов (скоро болячки почнуть про себе давати знати, треба шось на пенсію шоб було)
Відео з двома маріонетками - це тупо гротеск. Один — цілує диктатора в обмін на хвилину слави, інший —, як я розумію, уявляє себе вершником на коні під прапором держави, що бомбить Україну.
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Ван Дамм каже, що хоче говорити лише “про спорт, мир і щастя”. Але мир — це не те слово, яке путін пише на ракетах. І щастя — це точно не те, що чекає на окупованих територіях.
Моралі не буде. Колишня зірка бойовиків цілує військового злочинця і пише для нього відео, корумпований депутат вигулює російський паспорт у стайні… цей світ вже не врятувати. Асад і Янукович, дивлячись на те, що в них новий сусід, вже не цокаються чарками - вони хуярять відверто з горла, і не закручують, бо занюхують об плечі
І останнє. Фраза з легендарної реклами вантажівок Volvo Trucks, в якій Жан-Клод Ван Дамм зробив шпагат між двома вантажівками на ходу, звучить так:
“У моєму житті було чимало злетів і падінь, я пройшов свою частку вибоїн та сильного вітру.
Але саме це зробило мене тим, ким я є.
І ось я стою перед вами.
Те, що ви бачите — це тіло, доведене до досконалості…
Пара ніг, створена, щоб кинути виклик законам фізики…
І розум, налаштований здійснити найепічніший шпагат.”
Мусимо визнати, що зі шпагатом у нього все добре. Навіть кацапка волочкова в ахуї від розтяжки
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Моралі не буде. Колишня зірка бойовиків цілує військового злочинця і пише для нього відео, корумпований депутат вигулює російський паспорт у стайні… цей світ вже не врятувати. Асад і Янукович, дивлячись на те, що в них новий сусід, вже не цокаються чарками - вони хуярять відверто з горла, і не закручують, бо занюхують об плечі
І останнє. Фраза з легендарної реклами вантажівок Volvo Trucks, в якій Жан-Клод Ван Дамм зробив шпагат між двома вантажівками на ходу, звучить так:
“У моєму житті було чимало злетів і падінь, я пройшов свою частку вибоїн та сильного вітру.
Але саме це зробило мене тим, ким я є.
І ось я стою перед вами.
Те, що ви бачите — це тіло, доведене до досконалості…
Пара ніг, створена, щоб кинути виклик законам фізики…
І розум, налаштований здійснити найепічніший шпагат.”
Мусимо визнати, що зі шпагатом у нього все добре. Навіть кацапка волочкова в ахуї від розтяжки
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Пропагандистський російський ресурс поширив пост з посиланням на український інформаційний ресурс "Думка Медіа" (https://dumka.media/ukr/suspilstvo/1744794671-u-harkovi-biznesmen-zgvaltuvav-nepovnolitnyu-pobiv-ta-vikrav-telefon) про те, що український військовослужбовець згвалтував неповнолітню дівчину.
Але є нюанс:
виявляється, що оригінал публікації містить інформацію про згвалтування дівчини бізнесменом, п не військовослужбовцем
С - смєкалочка. Спецслужби рф змінили назву новини, використали фотошоп, поширили фейковий скріншот і типу замутили І -іпсо-шечку
Вийшло Х - хуйово. Спробуйте ще
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Але є нюанс:
виявляється, що оригінал публікації містить інформацію про згвалтування дівчини бізнесменом, п не військовослужбовцем
С - смєкалочка. Спецслужби рф змінили назву новини, використали фотошоп, поширили фейковий скріншот і типу замутили І -іпсо-шечку
Вийшло Х - хуйово. Спробуйте ще
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Victim-blaming in Italy by venediktov or sometimes it is better to chew than to speak
Preamble. An old Chekist was interviewed by a respected Italian newspaper. However, it turned out that it was not an interview at all, but actually a tour of Goebbels.
The article consists of two parts: the interview itself and examples of where the Russian "oppositionist" openly pushes Kremlin narratives. Here we go
"The founder of Echo of Moscow radio, a long-time friend of the Russian president: "Putin will not allow a capricious American leader like trump to dictate the line of behaviour. He wants to talk to America on an equal footing, to return to the days of the USSR: He is not interested in the EU.
"What a horror". Alexei Venediktov listens in silence to a short story about the Sumy massacre. The Russian media presented it as a strike against a concentration of Ukrainian soldiers. Only ten days ago, we met the 70-year-old founder of Moscow's Echo radio in a restaurant near the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. While he was enjoying himself, people from the Kremlin, personal assistants of Vladimir Putin, came in. And they all came to our table to greet an old friend and confidant of the president, who, despite being declared a foreign agent because of his declared opposition to the war, remains untouchable
A grey area in its purest form. But also a unique knowledge of the facts, the result of an unprecedented number of connections and contacts. "Now we will finally see what Donald Trump's reaction will be. Keep in mind that Russia is not at all happy about these talks. Because in any case, the American president is putting pressure, that's certainly true. Putin sees this as an unexpected variable. The unpredictability of the US president creates a lot of anxiety in the Kremlin.
Does the fact that Trump has restored Russia's political centrality mean nothing?
"The Kremlin's preferred candidate for the White House was neither Kamala Harris nor Trump. The ideal candidate is always Mr Chaos. Perhaps Putin would have preferred a weak Democratic president like Harris, with a Republican Congress and therefore chaos. Instead, he got Trump, who delivered lethal weapons to Ukraine during his first term, who blocked Nord Stream. Not Obama, not Biden, who are easy to "manage", but the one who stopped helping Ukraine and stopped it. And no one knows what he can take away from Russia."
Do you think these talks will lead to anything?
"There will be some result. Either we are looking for a way out, or we are resigned to this slaughter. Steve Witkoff is equally concerned about Israel, the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Russia and Ukraine. In all of these scenarios, being essentially disinterested in the crimes or causes, the US knows only one strategy: freezing. If you ask me, I think this will result in a chapter that will never be resolved and never be official, something like Northern Cyprus."
Do you mean Donbas or the whole of Ukraine?
"I mean the whole of Ukraine, unfortunately. As for Donbas, the main problem is the people who live there. Luhansk plus Donetsk is five million people. Two million were in Russia before the war started; one and a half million were in Ukraine: they are refugees. If you don't take borders into account, what will happen to these people?"
Is it a problem for Ukraine as well?
"When my friends in Kyiv talked to Zelenskyy about this and asked him why he hadn't declared an amnesty for those who decided to stay and work in the occupied territories, he said that others would not understand. This is the problem of consequences. But now the only thing that matters is to freeze it, one way or another."
Putin seems to have no intention of stopping.
"A simple truce will not end anything. We need to separate dreams from reality. Putin doesn't want peace, and I think Zelenskyy doesn't either. For different reasons, of course. Putin has not achieved his goals, so he is accelerating. He is looking for a faster way, with different weapons, perhaps with covert mobilisation."
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Preamble. An old Chekist was interviewed by a respected Italian newspaper. However, it turned out that it was not an interview at all, but actually a tour of Goebbels.
The article consists of two parts: the interview itself and examples of where the Russian "oppositionist" openly pushes Kremlin narratives. Here we go
"The founder of Echo of Moscow radio, a long-time friend of the Russian president: "Putin will not allow a capricious American leader like trump to dictate the line of behaviour. He wants to talk to America on an equal footing, to return to the days of the USSR: He is not interested in the EU.
"What a horror". Alexei Venediktov listens in silence to a short story about the Sumy massacre. The Russian media presented it as a strike against a concentration of Ukrainian soldiers. Only ten days ago, we met the 70-year-old founder of Moscow's Echo radio in a restaurant near the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. While he was enjoying himself, people from the Kremlin, personal assistants of Vladimir Putin, came in. And they all came to our table to greet an old friend and confidant of the president, who, despite being declared a foreign agent because of his declared opposition to the war, remains untouchable
A grey area in its purest form. But also a unique knowledge of the facts, the result of an unprecedented number of connections and contacts. "Now we will finally see what Donald Trump's reaction will be. Keep in mind that Russia is not at all happy about these talks. Because in any case, the American president is putting pressure, that's certainly true. Putin sees this as an unexpected variable. The unpredictability of the US president creates a lot of anxiety in the Kremlin.
Does the fact that Trump has restored Russia's political centrality mean nothing?
"The Kremlin's preferred candidate for the White House was neither Kamala Harris nor Trump. The ideal candidate is always Mr Chaos. Perhaps Putin would have preferred a weak Democratic president like Harris, with a Republican Congress and therefore chaos. Instead, he got Trump, who delivered lethal weapons to Ukraine during his first term, who blocked Nord Stream. Not Obama, not Biden, who are easy to "manage", but the one who stopped helping Ukraine and stopped it. And no one knows what he can take away from Russia."
Do you think these talks will lead to anything?
"There will be some result. Either we are looking for a way out, or we are resigned to this slaughter. Steve Witkoff is equally concerned about Israel, the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Russia and Ukraine. In all of these scenarios, being essentially disinterested in the crimes or causes, the US knows only one strategy: freezing. If you ask me, I think this will result in a chapter that will never be resolved and never be official, something like Northern Cyprus."
Do you mean Donbas or the whole of Ukraine?
"I mean the whole of Ukraine, unfortunately. As for Donbas, the main problem is the people who live there. Luhansk plus Donetsk is five million people. Two million were in Russia before the war started; one and a half million were in Ukraine: they are refugees. If you don't take borders into account, what will happen to these people?"
Is it a problem for Ukraine as well?
"When my friends in Kyiv talked to Zelenskyy about this and asked him why he hadn't declared an amnesty for those who decided to stay and work in the occupied territories, he said that others would not understand. This is the problem of consequences. But now the only thing that matters is to freeze it, one way or another."
Putin seems to have no intention of stopping.
"A simple truce will not end anything. We need to separate dreams from reality. Putin doesn't want peace, and I think Zelenskyy doesn't either. For different reasons, of course. Putin has not achieved his goals, so he is accelerating. He is looking for a faster way, with different weapons, perhaps with covert mobilisation."
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And Zelenskyy?
"Everything is different for him. It is his people who do not want a truce. Here in Russia, Putin does not depend on public opinion, he draws it himself. Zelensky, on the other hand, depends on the Ukrainian population. And all the polls show that people do not want any deals with the bloody Kremlin.
So should we wait until Putin takes everything he demands?
"Territorially, it is clear what he wants. Four regions, completely. He can get them even without a war, in my opinion, by reaching an agreement with the US. But he doesn't trust them. That's why he is bombing, and accelerating. Because he also understands that his time is limited."
But if he is seventy years old and will definitely remain president until 2036...
"Mikhail Gorbachev once told me: "Alyosha, there are no naïve people in the Kremlin". The mission that Putin has set himself is impossible. He will not succeed in creating an empire like the Chinese or American ones. But he does not know this and feels that he is behind schedule. Moreover, he understands that Trump is running out of time: he has to do something. And since he will not allow the capricious American president to dictate the terms of the cessation of hostilities, he is forcing him to act."If this is the case, why did he choose Trump as his interlocutor?
"Putin's goal is to talk to Americans on an equal footing. For him, this also means restoring historical justice: a return to the days of the USSR. This is his goal. Why are we talking only about American prisoner exchanges? Because Putin no longer cares about Europeans. He says to his own people: what is this and who are they, Europe and Europeans? Who is their president? And what does he decide? He thinks only in terms of power. And he cannot imagine power divided between twenty-seven sovereign states."
And now let's see how the "good Russian" works for his shoulder straps
The main technique used by the pensioner is to disguise propaganda as "realism" or "insider analysis". This allows him to create the illusion of objectivity, but in reality, what is happening is nothing more than an attempt to promote Kremlin theses. Let's go
Positioning Venediktov as an "oppositionist" with access to Putin,
"...an old friend and confidant of the president, who, despite being declared a foreign agent..." - pure manipulation.
Venediktov is being portrayed as an "independent journalist" or "oppositionist", while at the same time acknowledging his deep ties to the Kremlin. However, such a move by the Italian media legitimises Russian rhetoric, with information being presented as "internal criticism", but from the mouth of a systemic, absolutely loyal figure.
Then there is another manipulation - "Russia is not at all happy about these talks... Trump's unpredictability is creating anxiety in the Kremlin". In fact, there is an attempt to portray Russia as a party that does not want to negotiate, and therefore is not an aggressor. Venediktov knows and understands perfectly well that it is Putin who insists on a "new Yalta order" and negotiations "from a position of strength", and that war is a tool for pressure. Therefore, the attempt to portray the Kremlin as a "cautious" player is nothing more than a distortion of reality, a substitution of concepts. And that's all
"The ideal candidate is always Mr Chaos"
"During his first term, Trump delivered lethal weapons to Ukraine" - again, the shoulder straps are visible. The manipulation is that such quotes minimise Trump's destructive policies for the West and Ukraine, and the idea that Trump is "unpredictable" but not pro-Russian is being promoted (although the suspension of aid to Ukraine and the US president's sympathy for authoritarian leaders suggest otherwise). Venediktov's piece is a basic promotion of the Kremlin's narrative of a useful idiot/partner of Trump who is not pro-Russian
"Either we are looking for a way out, or we accept this massacre...", "This will turn out to be a chapter that will never be resolved" - the barbell again
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"Everything is different for him. It is his people who do not want a truce. Here in Russia, Putin does not depend on public opinion, he draws it himself. Zelensky, on the other hand, depends on the Ukrainian population. And all the polls show that people do not want any deals with the bloody Kremlin.
So should we wait until Putin takes everything he demands?
"Territorially, it is clear what he wants. Four regions, completely. He can get them even without a war, in my opinion, by reaching an agreement with the US. But he doesn't trust them. That's why he is bombing, and accelerating. Because he also understands that his time is limited."
But if he is seventy years old and will definitely remain president until 2036...
"Mikhail Gorbachev once told me: "Alyosha, there are no naïve people in the Kremlin". The mission that Putin has set himself is impossible. He will not succeed in creating an empire like the Chinese or American ones. But he does not know this and feels that he is behind schedule. Moreover, he understands that Trump is running out of time: he has to do something. And since he will not allow the capricious American president to dictate the terms of the cessation of hostilities, he is forcing him to act."If this is the case, why did he choose Trump as his interlocutor?
"Putin's goal is to talk to Americans on an equal footing. For him, this also means restoring historical justice: a return to the days of the USSR. This is his goal. Why are we talking only about American prisoner exchanges? Because Putin no longer cares about Europeans. He says to his own people: what is this and who are they, Europe and Europeans? Who is their president? And what does he decide? He thinks only in terms of power. And he cannot imagine power divided between twenty-seven sovereign states."
And now let's see how the "good Russian" works for his shoulder straps
The main technique used by the pensioner is to disguise propaganda as "realism" or "insider analysis". This allows him to create the illusion of objectivity, but in reality, what is happening is nothing more than an attempt to promote Kremlin theses. Let's go
Positioning Venediktov as an "oppositionist" with access to Putin,
"...an old friend and confidant of the president, who, despite being declared a foreign agent..." - pure manipulation.
Venediktov is being portrayed as an "independent journalist" or "oppositionist", while at the same time acknowledging his deep ties to the Kremlin. However, such a move by the Italian media legitimises Russian rhetoric, with information being presented as "internal criticism", but from the mouth of a systemic, absolutely loyal figure.
Then there is another manipulation - "Russia is not at all happy about these talks... Trump's unpredictability is creating anxiety in the Kremlin". In fact, there is an attempt to portray Russia as a party that does not want to negotiate, and therefore is not an aggressor. Venediktov knows and understands perfectly well that it is Putin who insists on a "new Yalta order" and negotiations "from a position of strength", and that war is a tool for pressure. Therefore, the attempt to portray the Kremlin as a "cautious" player is nothing more than a distortion of reality, a substitution of concepts. And that's all
"The ideal candidate is always Mr Chaos"
"During his first term, Trump delivered lethal weapons to Ukraine" - again, the shoulder straps are visible. The manipulation is that such quotes minimise Trump's destructive policies for the West and Ukraine, and the idea that Trump is "unpredictable" but not pro-Russian is being promoted (although the suspension of aid to Ukraine and the US president's sympathy for authoritarian leaders suggest otherwise). Venediktov's piece is a basic promotion of the Kremlin's narrative of a useful idiot/partner of Trump who is not pro-Russian
"Either we are looking for a way out, or we accept this massacre...", "This will turn out to be a chapter that will never be resolved" - the barbell again
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The manipulation is that the Katsap is pedalling the idea that there is no solution to the war except freezing = Ukraine's surrender on the Kremlin's terms. In fact, this is classic Kremlin rhetoric in the context of "there is no good alternative but a bad peace".
The rhetoric about the "people of Donbas" as the main problem and "...what will happen to these people?" - smacks of the KGB from a kilometre away.
Venediktov is artificially trying to reduce the problem to a humanitarian one, rather than a crime of aggression or occupation. Just as the Kremlin justifies the invasion under the sauce of "protecting Russians," Venediktov repeats the same idea, but simply uses different words.
As a result, black has become white: they forgot about the invasion and war crimes of the Russian Federation --> they remembered the "problems" with Russian speakers = they justified the invasion. You can go and demand an extraordinary military rank, for example
"Putin does not want peace, and in my opinion, Zelensky does not want peace either" - well, it is finally clear that the interview is with a colonel of the Russian special services, not a "journalist"
In this case, the Russian uses "whataboutism" - an artificial and deliberate levelling of the aggressor and the victim, in the context of both sides allegedly not wanting peace, "forgetting" that one country is waging a war of aggression, while the other is defending itself. This is a classic from the KGB and Cold War books
Key narratives from the Kremlin: "There is little time, so we need to force it", "He understands that his time is limited... So he bombs and accelerates"
Again, a substitution of concepts. Venediktov is legitimising war as a necessary choice. The thesis "he has to", according to the old KGB officer, should hide the fact that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is the result of a deliberate imperialist course.
Venediktov wants to make black white again. Watch your hands:
Not a bloody Russian tyrant, but "the president of the Russian Federation under pressure" = not him, but those who put pressure = the US and Europe are to blame for the Russian invasion, not Russia. Goebbels, come the fuck out!
Next, Colonel Venediktov tries to contrast "great America" with "insignificant Europe" - "Putin no longer cares about Europeans... Who is their president? And what does he decide?"
The manipulation is that the "good Russian" openly discredits Europe as a political entity. Venediktov presents this as if it were Putin's opinion, but the real effect is to promote the idea that the EU is powerless and the US is the only worthy party to the negotiations.
Epilogue. Comrade Venediktov did not actually give an interview. He was using foreign media to promote outright Moscow theses that
The Kremlin is a complex structure with many fears, but not an aggressor.The only way out is to freeze and surrender Ukraine on Russia's terms
Both sides equally do not want peace.
Europe does not matter.
The US is the main player, but chaos is more profitable than order.
Putin is not acting from a position of evil, but from a position of historical mission.
Ukraine is not an independent entity, but a part of the game between the US and Russia.
Moral. Not surrender, but a complex compromise on Russia's terms. Zelenskyy does not want peace because he listens to the people. Putin orders to fire missiles at Ukraine because he is not allowed to negotiate like a gentleman
Venediktov's interview is a classic "soft power inside" information operation. To be honest, it turned out so-so.
The only question is whether anyone in the West understands what the Russian is really doing.
Hello, EU intelligence services. You are being fed Russian-flavoured shit in broad daylight. Are you ready to swallow it?
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The rhetoric about the "people of Donbas" as the main problem and "...what will happen to these people?" - smacks of the KGB from a kilometre away.
Venediktov is artificially trying to reduce the problem to a humanitarian one, rather than a crime of aggression or occupation. Just as the Kremlin justifies the invasion under the sauce of "protecting Russians," Venediktov repeats the same idea, but simply uses different words.
As a result, black has become white: they forgot about the invasion and war crimes of the Russian Federation --> they remembered the "problems" with Russian speakers = they justified the invasion. You can go and demand an extraordinary military rank, for example
"Putin does not want peace, and in my opinion, Zelensky does not want peace either" - well, it is finally clear that the interview is with a colonel of the Russian special services, not a "journalist"
In this case, the Russian uses "whataboutism" - an artificial and deliberate levelling of the aggressor and the victim, in the context of both sides allegedly not wanting peace, "forgetting" that one country is waging a war of aggression, while the other is defending itself. This is a classic from the KGB and Cold War books
Key narratives from the Kremlin: "There is little time, so we need to force it", "He understands that his time is limited... So he bombs and accelerates"
Again, a substitution of concepts. Venediktov is legitimising war as a necessary choice. The thesis "he has to", according to the old KGB officer, should hide the fact that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is the result of a deliberate imperialist course.
Venediktov wants to make black white again. Watch your hands:
Not a bloody Russian tyrant, but "the president of the Russian Federation under pressure" = not him, but those who put pressure = the US and Europe are to blame for the Russian invasion, not Russia. Goebbels, come the fuck out!
Next, Colonel Venediktov tries to contrast "great America" with "insignificant Europe" - "Putin no longer cares about Europeans... Who is their president? And what does he decide?"
The manipulation is that the "good Russian" openly discredits Europe as a political entity. Venediktov presents this as if it were Putin's opinion, but the real effect is to promote the idea that the EU is powerless and the US is the only worthy party to the negotiations.
Epilogue. Comrade Venediktov did not actually give an interview. He was using foreign media to promote outright Moscow theses that
The Kremlin is a complex structure with many fears, but not an aggressor.The only way out is to freeze and surrender Ukraine on Russia's terms
Both sides equally do not want peace.
Europe does not matter.
The US is the main player, but chaos is more profitable than order.
Putin is not acting from a position of evil, but from a position of historical mission.
Ukraine is not an independent entity, but a part of the game between the US and Russia.
Moral. Not surrender, but a complex compromise on Russia's terms. Zelenskyy does not want peace because he listens to the people. Putin orders to fire missiles at Ukraine because he is not allowed to negotiate like a gentleman
Venediktov's interview is a classic "soft power inside" information operation. To be honest, it turned out so-so.
The only question is whether anyone in the West understands what the Russian is really doing.
Hello, EU intelligence services. You are being fed Russian-flavoured shit in broad daylight. Are you ready to swallow it?
The end
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PayPal- fashdonetsk2022@gmail.com
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