Bullshit from Amnesty about death sentence / Cazzate di Amnesty sulla pena di morte / Conneries d'Amnesty sur la peine de mort
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It's time that human rights for those who don't respect human rights get listed and the death sentence get discussed not like a tabu or with bullshit! @WomenRightsTelegram @GenRevolutionOfficial @DeathSentenceFAQ @AmnestyPropaganda
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The Death Penalty: No Evidence for Deterrence

What the paper simply write: there is no evidence, means no way to show with high quality scientific studies that cannot be applied at all, that a death sentence is effective.

What people understand when they read quickly just the title: a death sentence is not effective. This is not what the paper is saying! It clearly says there is no positive or negative evidence, because doing proper studies would be unethical, especially if we would removed all factors that influence such values.

This doesn't happen just with the prison, but even in many other topics. We cannot crash a plane to study what are the effects ... we cannot tell a patient "please eat 0 kcal, because i want to check how many days it requires before you die". There are so many scientific questions that cannot be answer, due to ethical problem with such studies ...

Studies show no link between the presence or absence of the death penalty and murder rates
https://perma.cc/6P4Q-SP5J

If the death penalty is not a proven deterrent to murder (= MEANS NO REAL POSITIVE STUDIES), is it worth the excessive costs, risks of error, uncertainty of completion, and other problems that are inherent to its practice? —> so since we cannot answer that by science, we use factors like errors during execution or the price to say "it's not ok" —> we cannot say "scientifically there is a negative evidence!"

Even saying "murders are less" is bullshit, like we showed in previous posts, because yes, maybe in one US state this is the case, in another one is totally fake saying that ...

Plus even if there is an increase or decrease, can we really say "it's due to the death sentence?". Canada was the best example. An increase without that ...
https://xn--r1a.website/WomenRightsTelegram/340

So instead of checking half of the information, let we really check facts:
- scientific evidence: NEUTRAL or better NOT POSSIBLE TO ANSWER DUE TO ETHICAL ISSUES
- more / less homicide = bullshit
- cost: not clear
- wrong sentence / errors: depends
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Suicide pods are now legal In Switzerland.

Death sentence in future: suicide pod 🇨🇭style, no more lethal injection or other shit. 30 s and basta

Description of Each Execution Method https://perma.cc/YMM9-J5S7

State-by-State Execution Protocols https://perma.cc/UPQ9-XEYB

Lethal Injection 1395 (# of executions by method since 1976) remember that it's not expensive! (but obviously more than Hanging or 🔫, which are inhumane!)
2-5 min.
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/349
Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire*, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, [South Carolina], South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wyoming, U.S. Military, U.S. Government
*New Hampshire abolished the death penalty but the repeal may not apply retroactively, leaving a prisoner on death row facing possible execution.

Electrocution 163
[Alabama], [Arkansas], Florida, Kentucky, [Mississippi], [Oklahoma], South Carolina (primary), [Tennessee]

Lethal Gas 11 (aka 🇩🇪)
Witnesses said he nodded his head for several minutes
[Alabama], Arizona, California, [Mississippi], Missouri, [Oklahoma], [Wyoming]

Hanging 3
There is nothing kind or gentle about a hanging. It is a process scientifically designed to break the neck and choke a person to death as efficiently as possible https://perma.cc/9YCB-L8EQ

If the rope is too long, the prisoner could be decapitated, and if it is too short, the strangulation could take as long as 45 minutes
[New Hampshire]*
Meanwhile in India and other asiatic countries still used a lot
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/471

Firing Squad 3
[Mississippi], [Oklahoma], [Utah], [South Carolina], [Idaho]

Plus why we are talking about that, ignoring "Unsatisfactory stunning is not uncommon at large-scale slaughter. Gregory et al. reported inadequate stuns in 14–16% of the bulls shot with a captive bolt gun!

As always we give a shit to animals and just think to humans (few humans, we kill more animals
The topic "Rape and Trans" is exactly the same!

- Trans women (= Men —> Women) are fighting to compete in women sport, but WE FORGET WOMEN RIGHTS! that should be respected too.

- Death sentence: we always talk about morders and drug traffickers BUT WE FORGET RAPERS, CANNIBALISTS, TERRORISTS, PEDOPHILES, ETC.!

- We talk about dignity of living BUT WE FORGET THE DIGNITY OF DYING

- We talk about some crimes in Ukraine or ..., BUT WE IGNORE ALL OTHER TYPE OF CRIMES

- We talk about the right to live, BUT WE FORGET THAT MOST PEOPLE GIVE A SHIT TO HOMELESS

- We talk about woman rape, BUT WE FORGET THAT EVEN MEN GET RAPED

- We talk about human rights (https://perma.cc/7D4S-HDVL https://perma.cc/Y2UN-92F7), BUT WE FORGET PLANET AND ANIMAL RIGHTS! and WE FORGET TO WRITE RIGHTS FOR PEOPLE NOT RESPECTING RIGHTS!

- We discuss thing with few point of views or methods, BUT WE FORGET THERE ARE OTHER TOO

- We talk about 100% or 0%, BUT WE FORGET THERE IS 1%, 5%, 0%*+, etc.

- We talk about a nation or language, BUT WE FORGET THAT THE PLANET IS NOT MADE BY JUST 1 COUNTRY

- We talk about "now", BUT WE DON'T CONSIDER THE FUTURE (ex. depression, suicide due to rape, etc.)

- We talk about rights, BUT WE GIVE A SHIT IF SUCH RIGHTS ARE NOT RESPECTED! (not all)

- We talk about the safety of prisoners, BUT WE FORGET THE SAFETY OF OUR POPULATION!
https://xn--r1a.website/RapeTelegram/698

- We talk about facts, BUT WE FORGET TO VERIFY THAT

- We talk about no discrimination, BUT WE FORGET TO NOT DISCRIMINATING PEOPLE ...

- We talk about equality, BUT AT THE END IS THE WHOLE OPPOSITE

- We talk about "we don't decide who can live or die", BUT AT THE END WE EXACTLY DO THAT IN CRITICAL SITUATIONS (Saw movie was a great example, but this happens in reality too, especially in critical situations).

- We talk about the "right to kill a baby" (= abortion = mother right), BUT WE COMPLAIN IF WE KILL OURSELVES (euthanasia)

- We talk about the right of prisoners, BUT WE FORGET THAT PRISONS ARE OVERCROWDED https://perma.cc/U4WL-W5HT
Im Jahr 2012 standen in den 109 Einrichtungen insgesamt 6'978 Plätze zur Verfügung. Alle Einrichtungen in der Schweiz beherbergten gemäss Strafvollzugsstatistik2 am Stichtag (05.09.2012) 6'599 Gefangene. Davon waren 50,3 Prozent nicht verurteilt (2'051 Personen in Untersuchungshaft, 669 im vorzeitigen Strafantritt, 427 in Ausschaffungs- oder Auslieferungshaft und 172 in einer anderen Haftform). Der Frauenanteil betrug 4,9 Prozent. Die Belegungsrate betrug 94,6 Prozent.

Die Ausgaben von Bund, Kantonen und Gemeinden konsolidiert belaufen sich 2005 auf 138,4 Milliarden Franken. Bis 2010 sind sie auf 147,1 Milliarden Franken angestiegen
(+ 6,3 Prozent).

Die Aufwendungen für öffentliche Sicherheit, umfassend Polizei, Rechtsprechung, Feuerwehr, Forschung und Entwicklung (F-E) im Bereich der öffentlichen Ordnung und Sicherheit, Öffentliche Ordnung und Sicherheit nicht andersweitig genannt (n.a.g) und Strafvollzug, machen 9 Milliarden Franken oder 6,1 Prozent der Gesamtausgaben aus.

Davon fallen 2010 10,99 Prozent oder 993 Millionen Franken (0,67 Prozent der Gesamtausgaben) auf den Strafvollzug; sie stiegen zwischen 2005 und 2010 von 802 Millionen Franken um 191 Millionen Franken an (+ 24 Prozent).

Bei 6'200 Insassen fallen (für die 6'660 Plätze) ungewichtete Aufwendungen von 310 Franken pro Insasse und Tag an. Gewichtet kostet 2010 ein Haftplatz pro Insasse und Tag in der Untersuchungshaft 234 Franken und im Vollzug 390 Franken.
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One of the main "excuse" against death sentence is the cost, let we check that a bit more

As we said previous only to keep a prisoner in prison it costs 100 - 400$ / day.
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/301
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/605

Now we exclude ethics princips, we just compare that with not prisoners.

Let we say it costs 300$, this means:

a) Among the EU Member States, the highest average annual adjusted full-time salary in 2021 was recorded in Luxembourg (€72 200), followed by Denmark (€63 300) and Ireland (€50 300). Meanwhile, the lowest values of the indicator were recorded in Bulgaria (€10 300), Hungary (€12 600) and Romania (€13 000) https://perma.cc/AVC4-C68R

Let we take a 50k wage: this means 50000/13/20 = around 200$ each day —> far lower then the cost of the prison!

b)
each 10 years: 1.1 mio $
means if they get life sentence for 80 years, it costs around 9 mio $

c) death sentence means around 20 years in prison = 2.2 mio $

Lethal dosis
still cost less than 5k, probably around 0.5-2k
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/349

so THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS THE COURT / DEFENSE COST! like https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/315 is showing.

Even just getting life sentence for 50 years, means 30 years less = 3.3 mio. Does it really cost much more than 3.5 mio??

The typical death penalty trial cost nearly $1.3 million, while a non-death trial cost about $600 thousand https://perma.cc/GAD8-MK93

Obviously the costs are different from country to country... If we consider 1.3 mio, we save around 2 mio for a 50 years life sentence and around 5 mio for 80 years ...

With 150$/day: 550k each 10y - around 0.5 mio with a 50y sentence or 2 mio with a 80y sentence

Real data in Italy: Nel 2021 il reddito medio delle famiglie (33.798 euro) = 129 euro / day = still less

We need to remember that prisoners still have PlayStation 2
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/610

https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/471
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/572
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/469
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/588
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/336
https://xn--r1a.website/PrisonFacts/583
Come rispondere invece ad Amnesty, che spara cazzate https://perma.cc/U399-P6QE

La decisione finale pena di morte si o no è un altra cosa, ma i fatti condivisi contro la pena di morte sono stronzate senza base scientifica!

Esempio: «Le vittime di crimini violenti e le loro famiglie hanno diritto alla giustizia!»

Primo, dipende cosa / come l'ha fatto, quali provi ci sono
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/310
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/456
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/321
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/182

Leggete
https://xn--r1a.website/WomenRightsTelegram/356
ed iniziate a rispettare TUTTI i diritti di tutte le persone, quindi non stiamo parlando solo della vittima, visto che lo stupro ad ogni caso non avviene nuovamente sulla stessa vittima, stesso per l'omicidio.
Poi come già detto, per l'omicidio a volte non fa senso uccidere altri, se quello che volevi uccidere per varie ragioni lo hai già fatto —> uno dei motivo per cui i killer ritornano pure poco in carcere. Dipende sempre da situazione ...

Esempio: «La pena di morte serve a lottare contro la criminalità»
Secondo la ricerca, non è così. In Canada ... —-> cazzata assurda
https://xn--r1a.website/WomenRightsTelegram/340
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/167
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/152
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/460
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/259

Esempio: «E la pena di morte per i terroristi?»
In parte probabilmente hanno ragione, ma su sta tematica non abbiamo ancora verificato

Esempio: «È meglio mettere a morte qualcuno che rinchiuderlo a vita»
Finché un prigioniero rimane in vita, può sperare nella riabilitazione o di essere scagionato se si scopre che è innocente.
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/201
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/191

Esempio: «Ci sono metodi di esecuzione rapidi, umani e indolori»
Qualsiasi metodo di esecuzione è disumano. Amnesty, che non promuove nemmeno il diritto di suicidio assistito, ma solo di aborto!! Poi avviene nello stesso modo, e adesso esiste pure l'invenzione svizzera ...
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/464
https://xn--r1a.website/AmnestyBullshit/268